Allan & Cathy serve as Pastors in the counseling area as well as the GrandTimers Ministry.

Allan worked for almost 26 years for a major oil company in various engineering, accounting and field operations assignments mostly in the West Texas area, retiring in 1991. Cathy worked for over 20 years in various banking assignments. After retirement and moving into a resort residence in Oklahoma, with all the golf, fishing & traveling available, they soon knew that God had called them to more than "retirement".

Both attended Christ For The Nations in Dallas, and joined the Covenant Church staff in February 1996. Their heart for the ministry is to counsel & teach on living an overcoming lifestyle.

They have four sons, Grady, Brian, Coby & Tracy and 10 grandchildren, all living in Texas.